Just another MSN conversation

Part One

David

Hello

DCoder

uh, hey

David

Um, this is -tr8er8- from PPM I added you so I can get help with my map

David

On this topic- http://www.ppmsite.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12735

David

So... you here?

DCoder

yeah, Im here just reading that topic

David

Oh ok

David

On the link you sent (http://modenc.renegadeprojects.com/RockPatch_Docs:Adding_a_new_ParaDrop) It says to add:

[SuperWeaponTypes] ... XX=NewParaDropSpecial
What would the number for 'xx' be? I just added it under [WeaponTypes]... Is that ok?

David

I already have 2 weapon types so the new paradrop would be number 146

David

If it can go under [WeaponTypes]

DCoder

what? Where the hell did you get [WeaponTypes]?

David

No clue but it works

DCoder

...

David

I played my map yesterday and put 2 new weapon types under [WeaponTypes] and it worked

DCoder

tell me, how exactly did you manage to misread "[SuperWeaponTypes]" as "[WeaponTypes]"?

David

I didnt I dont know what

David

'xx' woulld + =

DCoder

any number will work instead of an "xx", its common notation because the number doesnt really affect anything, as long as it is there

David

So it could be 66 ?

DCoder

yes it could but that doesnt explain where you got the "[WeaponTypes]" from?

David

Here is my rules.ini for it so far:

[Unit_ParaDrop_Special] 
;Basic Stuff
UIName=Name:Unit_ParaDrop_Special
Name=Unit ParaDrop Special
IsPowered=false
RechargeTime=4
Type=NewParaDrop ;NewParaDrop is the type for AmericanParaDrop clones
Action=NewPara ;check out the Adding custom Actions page to find out more about this 
SidebarImage=NEWPARAICON 
ShowTimer=no 
DisableableFromShell=no 
;New Tags
ParaDropUnits=MTNK,BFRT ;this is the list of UnitTypes (vehicles) that will be paradropped 
ParaDropUnitsNum=2,1;this is their amounts
System
IcySon has been added to the conversation.
DCoder

I just added another guy to the conversation

David

Ok Can he help?

IcySon

Satan has arrived.

DCoder

I sure hope so

David

lol

David

About my paradrop

DCoder

so, I suggest you try doing what the document suggested and add it under [SuperWeaponTypes] instead of whatever the heck [WeaponTypes] is

David

I get all the stuff until I click on the part about Adding custom Actions

David

About the [MousePointers]

IcySon

that requires the ability to create art

DCoder

did you do what the tutorial tells you?

David

I play my map and when I click on the Image on the side bar it just starts over and doesnt paradrop

IcySon

then you did something worng

David

I dont get this:
NewActionName=[StartFrame],[NumberOfFrames],[AnimationInte rval],[MinimapFrame],[MinimapNumberOfFrames] Do I add that in the rules?

IcySon

um, it's self explanatory

David

Well, under [??] Under [MousePointers]?

IcySon

Whoa he got it!!

David

I add it there?

IcySon

k nvm he didin't......-___-

David

*Sigh*

DCoder

yes, under [MouisePointers], just like the tut to ld you

David

I have this so far on [MousePointers]:
[MousePointers] Unit_ParaDrop_Special=259,10,4,516,-1

IcySon

does your text editor have a "Find" or "Search" function? if not. Get a new one.

David

I add it under that I use wordpad

David

That has it

IcySon

so the tut said to add it under [MousePointers] what's so hard about that

DCoder

I know... Dave, show the code of the superweapon itself

David

Now what do I add on instead on [StartFrame],[NumberOfFrames],[AnimationInterval],[MinimapFrame],[MinimapNumberOfFrames] Inside those frames?

IcySon

mouse.sha is an image with many frames

David

So...

IcySon

containing the mouse pointers so you go into XCC and pick the frames you wanna use for your paradrop

IcySon

it's a little too simple really...

David

What!?!

DCoder

dude you have xcc mixer?

David

XCC Mixer? Yeah

DCoder

open it ctrl-f "mouse.sha" double click it

IcySon

there's a reason tools exist

David

When I did Ctrl-f it didnt work

IcySon

File > Find not hard

David

Searching... WTF I click search and it dont do anything

David

Oh ok

DCoder

look at the status bar, does it say "Ready" or "Reading "

David

Go tit

IcySon

yes, go TIT...

DCoder

hehe ok, now find that file

David

Mouse.sha?

DCoder

yes

David

Not there...

IcySon

have we mentioned any other file?

DCoder

if you have yr, you definitely have that file

David

I have RA2 Not YR

IcySon

um WTF!?!?!?! aren't you using RockPatch?

David

it has c:\ brb

IcySon

O_o

David

back...

David

Do I download Rock Path? Patch

IcySon

rock patch doesn't work with regular RA2 you need YR

David

Oh So can I still do it?

IcySon

and you are trying to impliment a RockPatch only feature so.. no

David

Tank Paradrop is only for YR?

IcySon

tank paradrop is only for Rock Patch which is only for Yuri

David

:rambo *Sigh* This is really gay

IcySon

no you don't have Yuri's Revenge what do you expect

David

I do for the first decade

David

I have RA2 seperate

DCoder

so why do you use RA2 and not YR?

David

YR is my brothers

IcySon

RockPatch doesn't work with TFD

David

I know...

IcySon

so..

David

I need YR

IcySon

go get your bros cd

David

I wanna put the changes in my own map but hold up Ok

DCoder

yes, you need YR for this to work

David

Ill just copy the rules.ini later

IcySon

what...

David

Just keep going I have YR

DCoder

thats progress

David

lol

DCoder

when you install YR and install the 1.001 official patch, go download Rock Patch 1.07b and install it

IcySon

1.08 actualy

David

I already have mouse.sha 1.001 official patch

DCoder

good

David

Sorry bout that Hold up Ill download Rock Patch

David

What program should I open it with

IcySon

rock patch is an exe it runs itself

DCoder

its rar'd up

IcySon

yes I'm guesssing now he doesn't have winrar

DCoder

you need WinRAR to open that, dave

IcySon

and don't forget to delete WinZIP while you're at it

David

http://files.renegadeprojects.com/index.php?act=download&id=36

David

That it?

IcySon

does it look like it?

David

No It doesnt open

IcySon

the abbreviated "rp" doesn't give it away?

David

It doesd The download dont work

IcySon

we just told you, you need winrar to open .rar fi les

David

Dave...?

DCoder

the download does work, windows just doesnt know what program can open it,and we just repetitively told you the name of that program

IcySon

WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR www.rarlab.com WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR WinRAR

David

I download WInRAR It says YR is not installed Please install it......................

IcySon

it probably isn't installed then

David

It is

David

Hold up a sec

IcySon

do you have a PURPLE icon in your RA2 folder that sorta looks like a Y

David

I guess YR got uninstalled Installing now...

David

Is Generals and ZH good games?

IcySon

in my opinion NO

David

I thought so

DCoder

seconded

IcySon

Generic RTS 2007! 2008...

David

Everyone on CNC sites say its no a good game

IcySon

2009....

IcySon

omg, the story: your mission: kill the enemy

David

Well CNC 3 looks pretty cool

IcySon

next mission: kill the enemy a bit faster

David

I have to go now TTYL

DCoder

k

David

Icy

IcySon

maybe.... T__T

David

E-mail = ???

IcySon

I am ot available to help poeple at all times of the day it'd get on my nerves I have Taktics to worry about

David

Ok cya

Part Two

David

Hey

David

Do you know how I would get rid of "Missing" on my new unit I added to my mod? It says "Missing: MyUnitName"

David

Or something like that...

DCoder

yes I do

David

Oh, well if you are going to tell me can you tellmy via e-mail?

David

Because I got to go to school in like 5 min
How long will it take?

DCoder

one line of text

David

Ok
Lets do it
What do I have to open?

DCoder

that question has been answered infinite times. search the forums, youll definitely find it

David

Alright

David

Ra2 editiing forum?

DCoder

that would make the most sense, yes

David

I already made a topic but no one seems to be helping out:(

David

Im on page 11 and havent found anything that helps

DCoder

... what are you searching for?

David

mssing
missing*

David

You can help me out after school
:)
Cya

DCoder

cya

Part Three

David

Hey DCoder
I have him on my contacts too

DCoder

hey

Ryan

Thats nice
What is your problem?

David

sdfdsfd
Oh sorry
Well, my RA2 like wont work
Cant uninstall it

David

After about 10 seconds in the game, all my stuff blows up and I lose
Even in campaign

DCoder

thats copy protection

David

Really

DCoder

yes

DCoder

Definitely

David

I was just modding my map and when I tried to play it did it

DCoder

Delete the entire RA2 folder and reinstall it cleanly

David

The problem is I cant uninstall

Ryan

Delete the folder manually

David

What about all the maps I made?
And modded

DCoder

back them up somewhere?

Ryan

Save the maps you made in a spare folder and then delete the RA2 folder

David

In a removeable disk?

David

Ill try it now

Ryan

No you can make a spare folder in My Documents to store your maps then find the folder where RA2 exists and delete it
then reinstall it

David

Im transferring all my maps now

David

Done...

David

Now un-install
?

Ryan

Ok now your maps are safe, delete the RA2 folder

Ryan

If uninstall does not work then find the folder where RA2 is installed and simply delete it

David

I just sent it to the recycle bin and yeah

Ryan

Once your RA2 is deleted, place the disc in and install it again then

David

I am
Right now

DCoder

wait, Dave, you said you have TFD

David

But im going to bed in a sec so...
I do

Ryan

Thats all I can really suggest as I am really more a Tiberian Sun editor

DCoder

install from that and install YR as well

David

Wait, I have TFD and RA2 seperate

DCoder

TFD's YR doesnt always cooperate with plain RA2
install both from TFD disk

David

I have all games installed on TFD except like counterstrike and CNC 1 and stuff

David

Dude
It says play and not install

David

Then it says file missing

DCoder

you running from TFD's dvd?

David

No
RA@
RA2*

DCoder

WHAT DID I JUST SAY? "Install both from TFD disk"

David

I deleted the Westwood folder too

David

I already have
I dont want to play on TFD because when I mod it dont work

David

The XCC utilities use RA2

Ryan

There are patches for that though

David

Over TFD

Ryan

if you dont use TFD and patch it and use plain RA2 and the TFD YR you are going to have the problems forever

David

I just want RA2 to work

DCoder

and as soon as ytourbrother installs TFD YR on this machine, it will die again

David

I dont play YR ever
I have like once

DCoder

your*

David

Really?

Ryan

Yes

David

YR cant be installed if I install this?

DCoder

let me add one more RA2 modding master

System
Beowulf has been added to the conversation.
David

I have him too HEHEHE

Ryan

Ok..

Beowulf

Who the hell is Ryan? >_>

DCoder

Morpher

David

Did you block me Beowulf?
It says you are offline

Beowulf

hahahahahahaha

Ryan

I'm Morpher from PPM, don't think we havemet before, I run Tiberium Odyssey if you have heard of it

Beowulf

I might have.

David

Ahh fuck dat shit

Beowulf

I know who you are Morpher.

David

...

Beowulf

I didn't recognize the real name is all.

DCoder

so, just to get everyone on the same page

Beowulf

I know too many Ryans.

Ryan

Ah fair enough

David

Unblock me please

Beowulf

No.

David

*Sighs*

Beowulf

I can't be assed to answer your questions every goddamn day. >_>

DCoder

Dave here just deleted his RA2 folder.
Dave has RA2 CDs and TFD DVD.
Dave wants to install from CDs.

Beowulf

Why the hell would he do that? TFD = good enough!

David

But dont I need a patch for XCC?

Beowulf

NO!

Ryan

..

David

Yeah I do

Beowulf

I run TFD on my HP with NO patches of ANY sort.

David

To put the strings in will do it as RA2 and not TFD

Beowulf

XCC Mod Creator/Launcher/Mixer works fine.

David

Ive done it before I know...

Beowulf

So does the string file for chrissakes.

David

It will do it for RA2 and not TFD

Beowulf

omg. TFD WILL READ CHANGES LIKE RA2!

David

Not if I have RA2 installed

Beowulf

Same files dude. Different install path.

David

I tried it

David

I know

Beowulf

Then don't try to run RA2 and TFD at the same time!

David

Ok...
I already have TFD installed

Beowulf

You cannot seriously be this stupid. >_>

David

Arhg

Beowulf

So uninstall RA2.

David

WTF was that? I cant

Beowulf

What the fuck is so hard about that?

David

It wont let me

Ryan

You just said you deleted your folder?

David

I swear to god

Beowulf

Still in the registry then.
omg.

David

I try and this gay IE box pops up

Beowulf

Find "Software" under HKEY_CURRENT_USER and delete it.

David

Ryan told me to delete the RA2 directory

Ryan

If you cant unistall correctly
but you should be able to

David

Nope

Ryan

But you have to make sure you clear everything

Beowulf

If you just delete the folder, you don't remove anything but the game files.

DCoder

Beo... dont tell him about the registry. That's way too difficult.

David

I know...

Beowulf

To Windows, everything is still there.

DCoder

He WILL screw it up.

David

No its not

Beowulf

You need to remove the registry settings as well.

David

I know

Ryan

I'm know I thought he just wanted game files back in his original folder

David

All I needed to know if its because of F***ing RA2 !!!

Ryan

But each problem evolves into something different

David

Jeez I know the rest

David

Ill just delete it tomorrow
Im going to bed now

Beowulf

You said you did it already.
What the fuck? Did you delete it or not?

David

I deleted the folder

Ryan

He influences time I think

Beowulf

o_0

David

Im 13 and its 11:37 PM here

Ryan

Ok?

David

My mom wants me to go to bed.
School...

Beowulf

I'm 22 and it's 1:40
So the fuck what?

Ryan

Im 15 and its 4:07pm

David

Yeah 22 = No school for fuck sake

Ryan

22 = work and other priorities

Beowulf

Work, you moron.

Ryan

Work= income and ability to feed self

David

Fuck work its probably Friday night

David

You gotta be crazy to stay up this late

Beowulf

It's Friday morning, you twit.
And I stay up late all the time.

David

Its thursday night here, hehee

Beowulf

It's called not having restrictions.

David

Ok, thanks for help

Beowulf

What little we could actually give.

David

All I needed to know was that if it was because RA2 I was having all these probs

DCoder

YES

Beowulf

YES!

Ryan

If you make your problem clearer to understand then we are more than willing to assist you

David

I know...

Beowulf

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, YES!

Ryan

You know?

David

You guys like fucked it into my head already, lol

Ryan

Then why did you ask?

Beowulf

Skullfucking is gay. >_>

David

It was fine with just me and Ryan (Lets bring in another expert modder)

DCoder

dude
Ryan works with TS

David

We didnt even need DCoder or Beowulf
I know

Beowulf

DC and I work with RA2/YR.

David

He started chatting wit me
I know

Beowulf

or is it the other way around there, guy?

David

Nope

Ryan

I mod TS I work on TS I can only help you with RA2 problems that may be similar to problems with TS, Dcoder and Beowulf have more skill and knowlegde in RA2's field

David

I just got off Renegade and MSN thing was up

David

Flashing yellowish orange

Ryan

I asked who you were

David

Yeah I know

Beowulf

Knew it.
You added someone randomly... AGAIN!

Beowulf

Like you did with me.

David

I needed help...

Beowulf

So ask on the forums.
That's why we have them.

David

Too slow

Beowulf

Boo-fucking-hoo!
It's called patience!

DCoder

Yes, Dave, you are so fucking unique that nobody else in the entire world will ever have the same fucking problem

David

Dude your gay Beowulf

DCoder

and you cant spell, dimwit

Beowulf

Oh check it out guys... I'm GAY!
LOL

David

Ooooooo wow dimwit
Fuck you

Beowulf

Oh here we go.
The real child comes out!

David

Whatever doesnt matter

Beowulf

yay!

DCoder

Creative, aren't we?

Ryan

This argument is irrelative

Beowulf

But it is fun! :P

David

Forget it
Jeez

Ryan

Calling people gay for trying to help is just immature

Beowulf

I'm used to it.
I've been called gay many a time for my display pictures. heh.

Ryan

Its the kind of buzz word for insulting that was around school when I was 10

David

Dude he is all saying Im dumb and crap when he is trying to make a big deal why I was asking why I cant un-install

Beowulf

You deleted the folder instead of running the uninstall. That's why I called you a moron.

David

Yeah because fuckin ryan said to

DCoder

I told him to

David

Not me
Yeah see

Ryan

Fuckin Ryan couldn't understand your problem

Beowulf

Dammit DCoder!

David

Im just listening to the "experts"

Ryan

The experts learnt for themselves, other people should be able to follow that magic path

DCoder

and if you hadnt stopped in the middle of the process with your slepp, you would have had RA2 working by now sleep*

David

Yeah I know
But you invited other people
Started a conflict

Beowulf

Maybe someone else would understand you better.

David

And this happened

Beowulf

You're a moron. That's why this happened.

DCoder

You didnt fucking listen to my explanation, so I invited one more opinionated person

David

What is so hard about asking why I cant unistall

Ryan

If you want help you have to clearly explain your problem without resorting to immature arguments and impatience, I invited other people to try and help you, if anything you should be greatful I bothered to try and help you out whilst I could have been doing something else to waste my time

David

Yes, thanks you
All...

Beowulf

You should know there's something called an UNINSTALL!

David

I know now

Beowulf

It's an exe with every Westwood game.

David

The so called"UNINSTALL" didnt work!!!

Beowulf

Run it nest time you want to whack the game properly.
next*

David

I know

David

I tried to uninstall it many times
See you dont even know why I cant uninstall

Beowulf

You SHOULD be able to lay the files down by installing from the RA2 CD and then running the uninstaller. should remove RA2 properly.

David

It wont let me uninstall
Files are deleted

Beowulf

Because there's nothing left to uninstall.

David

When I put in the disk it just says "Play" and not uninstall

Beowulf

That's why you have to EXPLORE THE CD, find the Se tup folder, run setup.exe and go from there.

David

I did
Error
In an IE window

Beowulf

Then you're fucked.

David

I know...
I dont know what to do
Then I came to you guys for help

Beowulf

I do but it's far beyond what you could ever dream of doing.

David

See if you know

DCoder

TELLING US WHAT THE FUCKING ERROR SAID MIGHT HELP, DON'T YOU THINK?

Beowulf

^ Truth.

David

It said Red Al

David

ert 2 and everything else was cvered with grey

Beowulf

He did say IE so it's probably the same bague bullshit we always get.
vague*

DCoder

on setup.exe?

David

Yeah

Ryan

I'm sorry but I can't help in this area

DCoder

Beo, IE comes from gamemd, not setup

David

I went to Start>All Prgrams>Westwood>Red Alert 2>Red Alert 2 Uninstall

David

And clicked
I click next an it came up

David

and*

Beowulf

It won't work because the uninstaller is gone.
You HAVE to explore the CD.
Run setup.exe and hope it works.

David

Ill try

Beowulf

Well... it's obvious you haven't yet.

Problems

Date: 2006 September 26 (part 1), September 27 (Part 2), September 29 (Part 3).